The Trouble with Transporters

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  • Xuất bản 07 Th03, 2016
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  • Christopher Franklin
    Christopher Franklin 17 giờ trước

    But even supposing that this actually is the case and we die every time we go to sleep, you have yet to prove that it really makes a difference. After all, in the absence of any unmeasurable aspect of human consciousness, it comes to precisely the same thing, and therefore whether or not it is really "death" is an irrelevant question. And if the IS some unmeasurable aspect of it (perhaps we may refer to this as a "soul"), then that intangible being would presumably have the capability of remaining with its biological host while asleep, again debunking your "sleep is death" theory. It's alright, Grey. Put the coffee down. You don't have to do this to yourself.

  • Pig_master 101
    Pig_master 101 2 ngày trước

    Star Wars

  • Leif Kvalheim
    Leif Kvalheim 2 ngày trước

    If its a new me, he's probably better.

    SHAILESH PRASAD 2 ngày trước


  • Midgard Eagle
    Midgard Eagle 2 ngày trước

    I'm so glad I'm not the only one who understands this. Whenever I try to bring it up people just go "butbut the new me is identical!".

  • CareerKnight
    CareerKnight 2 ngày trước

    This is why I prefer to think with portals.

  • Amy Mason
    Amy Mason 3 ngày trước

    When you wake up, you aren't the same person you were when you went to sleep... because you haven't put yourself back together yet. Being the same person tomorrow that you are today requires constant work and effort to stay organized, repair errors, and when all else fails, bury inconsistencies under the rug. It's a lot like keeping a computer hard drive working, we're just more prone to defects but also better at fixing internal errors than our computers are.
    Since it's an active process, instead of something that just happens, we can be good or bad at it, depending on how much practice we have and how well-tested we have been. So, I think people in the Star Trek universe must be masters of pulling themselves together after a break in consciousness, while most of us are novices, and might even need caffeine to help with it.

  • Bee's
    Bee's 3 ngày trước

    “Who is you?” “You, is two”

  • Alvaro S.
    Alvaro S. 3 ngày trước

    I had the very same argument about transporters with a bunch of friends some 25 years ago. I can't agree more with you.
    But on the surgery and sleep part, I'm with @DreamCanvas, I don't think it's the same case as being "Beamed Up" - "Terminated".

  • Lion_Eats_Orbed_Ham
    Lion_Eats_Orbed_Ham 3 ngày trước

    If the teleporter turns atoms into energy, it would actually be a way to harness enough enough energy to last us a long time.

  • Mathew Wang
    Mathew Wang 5 ngày trước

    Yeah, but according to bundle theory it's fine ;)

  • Kat Oakman
    Kat Oakman 5 ngày trước

    4:52 what about dreams then?

  • Racool
    Racool 6 ngày trước +1

    Hey I don’t feel the pain I don’t care

  • Mark Fennell
    Mark Fennell 6 ngày trước

    I have studied this exact topic, and have some personal experiences. This is how we should think of the process.
    We must think in terms of Astral Travel. First, we get our souls to travel to a specific location, when we want, while keeping our physical body here.
    For example, you are put into a special sleep room, and induced into the Theta brain state. The operators then use a device to tell your soul to begin astral travel. And, to be able to tell your soul the specific location to travel too.
    Now you are walking around on the planet, as your Soul. You see, hear, touch everything...but from your Astral self. (I have experienced this many times, so I know what it is like).
    Meanwhile, your physical body is being maintained by the specialists. You can be confident that your body is healthy. Then....when you want to come back you tell them. Or when they need you back, they send for you. And are back into your body again. (I have traveled many times with Astral Self, the soul, so I know the feeling of going and returning). Communication must be maintained at all times however. And somebody must be taking care of your physical body while on your short journey.
    Later, we will develop the ability to put your soul into a specific new body, on the planet. As is done in the movie Avatar. The other physical body is maintained, and when you are are sent into that body. It doesn't even have to be the same type of body. As with Avatar, you can use a different body. One more suitable to the environment.
    This is better than trying to destroy and reassemble the physical body. Furthermore, getting your Soul to arrive at a specific the key to the whole thing.

    • Mark Fennell
      Mark Fennell 6 ngày trước

      I also have other plans for developing the technologies. Not engineering solutions, but a program for development and list of requirements.

  • Mark Fennell
    Mark Fennell 6 ngày trước

    Good points. really need to start thinking in terms of Astral Travel.
    Your soul is traveling from one location to the next.

  • Moew Kin
    Moew Kin 6 ngày trước

    Who *is* you

  • Alessandro .K.
    Alessandro .K. 10 ngày trước

    thanks, i can't sleep

  • rodney
    rodney 10 ngày trước

    Johhny joestar brought me here

  • Roger Beckner
    Roger Beckner 12 ngày trước

    Oh are playing the Devil's Advocate here, aren't you? Transporters are the bane of Star Trek.

  • Ethan Belanski
    Ethan Belanski 12 ngày trước

    Wish you would of delved into the "No-Cloning Theorem". Quite applicable.

  • The duck lord
    The duck lord 13 ngày trước

    there once existed a man know as the depression turtle. This being was the king of making you feel bad. A smart guy he was. And here are you. Getting the title of the depression lighbulb

  • Quinten Coenen
    Quinten Coenen 16 ngày trước

    Well that blew my mind

  • Ziliken the Agressive Isopod
    Ziliken the Agressive Isopod 16 ngày trước +3

    Tmw exploring transporters reveals that the metaphysical “spiritual” must exist

  • ecmorgan69
    ecmorgan69 17 ngày trước

    Damnit, I'm already a chronic insomniac... 😒

  • retluoc
    retluoc 18 ngày trước

    If you have an identical twin, how do you know your twin isn't you? Maybe you switch bodies when you're not looking?

  • Szymon Żywica
    Szymon Żywica 20 ngày trước

    Well, an identical copy is as impossible as perpetuum mobile, so starting with this assumption you easily can run into paradoxes.

  • Steven Bean
    Steven Bean 20 ngày trước

    The question is how does the transporter convey memories, let alone consciousness? If memories are electrical patterns just copying your atoms wouldn’t be able to recreate the memories you had within; all that appears on the other end is a body, complete with your brain and appearance, but nothing to power it.

  • Vaeza
    Vaeza 23 ngày trước

    Wait a minute! Who ARRRE you?

  • Amphibax
    Amphibax 23 ngày trước

    Just because we can't measure it doesn't mean that it's not there is always a possibility we just don't have the right tool to measure it

  • Levelup
    Levelup 26 ngày trước

    This is very scary cause I've thought about this before I even know this video existed... so... Are you unconscious people trying to tell me that you are unconscious?

  • jkhjvkmvb jknsdkx
    jkhjvkmvb jknsdkx 27 ngày trước +1

    uhhh did anyone else find it extremely difficult to focus on anything in the video with.. normal body cgp grey..?

  • Ele Kappa
    Ele Kappa 28 ngày trước

    Mr. Grey? Defecation is not excretion.

  • Fish Sticks
    Fish Sticks Tháng trước

    Begs the question what happens if you are destroyed, but in that moment of destruction, all your atoms (isotopes and all) and neurons firing at that moment are perfectly reconstructed somewhere else, would that be you?

  • GlowZoe
    GlowZoe Tháng trước

    literally just SOMA

  • Literalbrush 130
    Literalbrush 130 Tháng trước

    Why did I watch this at 4 in the morning right before I was going to bed

  • SixWingedAsura
    SixWingedAsura Tháng trước

    Grey, you son of a bitch, as if I don't have trouble sleeping as it is! :P

  • Narcoleptic Axolotl
    Narcoleptic Axolotl Tháng trước

    Seems to suggest we should hope that life is a simulation.

  • Daniel Moolman
    Daniel Moolman Tháng trước

    This seems like a paradox, as if a break in conscious means a new being, every moment can be a break, so therefore you die and relive every moment. As we can consciously see that there's not an issue, so breaks in conscious aren't a problem, but that would mean that teleporters are okay, which we know they aren't.

  • Danny Newhouse
    Danny Newhouse Tháng trước

    Oh no, the disassembler broke, how terrible. I guess myself and I should go figure out what's what in our quarters. alone.

  • Jack Mandu
    Jack Mandu Tháng trước

    Wait, shouldn’t the Transporter be a murder box rather than a suicide box? I don’t recall it being possible to transport yourself. I thought you always, or nearly always, needed also someone else to work the slider thingies.

  • 74554N 41-5H4TTi
    74554N 41-5H4TTi Tháng trước

    I never know he had such good animation

  • Xion
    Xion Tháng trước

    The soul would have to pass to the next body that appears on the end portal or the other body would die. So it's the same person piloting a new body not a duplicate.

  • Risto D.
    Risto D. Tháng trước

    So in simple terms, your soul stays behind when u tp and a new one is spawned

  • Bernard P.
    Bernard P. Tháng trước

    Jonathan A! Johnny R sent me here!

  • Bernard P.
    Bernard P. Tháng trước

    Jonathan A! Johnny R sent me here!

  • Marta Bronshvayg
    Marta Bronshvayg Tháng trước

    Sleep well tonight,
    Hope you have nightmares!

  • Giuseppe Massari
    Giuseppe Massari Tháng trước

    And now I'm going to sleep, understanding that every day is literally my last.

    And also understanding that the only safe way of teleportation is my breaking the fabric of time and space and opening a shortcut between two places instead of moving yourself really fast

  • evan thesquirrel
    evan thesquirrel Tháng trước

    I object to the notion at 1:00 where he claims that things that can't be measured can't affect things.

  • iiKyanite
    iiKyanite Tháng trước

    so basically never sleep.

  • Charmaine Eng
    Charmaine Eng Tháng trước

    basically, "Living With Yourself"... Paul Rudds as far as the eye can seeeee

  • John Reed
    John Reed Tháng trước

    Appreciation for the subject of the transporter suicide machine’s choice of shirt color :)

  • Cavalio Thorson
    Cavalio Thorson Tháng trước +1

    You experience the exact same consciousness you felt waking up as you did falling asleep. If I'm a copy/imposter with all the same stuff there's 0.0% difference to the original's existential experiences in the world.

  • Ricca Deuricca
    Ricca Deuricca Tháng trước

    This is a question if you need to break apart you (for copying your data) and reassemble it later. can't you clone yourself later because there is already a data of you and you don't need to break yourself again to receive the data? but from the No cloning theorem you can't make a perfect cloning?

  • Ozair Kazi
    Ozair Kazi Tháng trước

    what about projection

  • Cult Of AC
    Cult Of AC Tháng trước +3

    Maybe that’s why we can die after just a few nights without sleep

  • Aaron Bulmahn
    Aaron Bulmahn Tháng trước

    Okay ... how about you don’t rip through dozens of theories of philosophy. If this go on I will not only study a useless major but also lose the ability to act all smart around everyone else because everyone knows all of these things already :

  • Shawn Schick
    Shawn Schick Tháng trước

    Thanks Grey, now I will never get to sleep.

  • Tiago Macedo
    Tiago Macedo Tháng trước

    "Two identical copies of the same person can disagree, *therefore* people must have some some unmeasurable property (in this case consciousness/identity" is a really bad argument. The two copies could disagree because they've had different subjective experiences of the world *since* they were duplicated. Also, they both arguing over who is the original is actually a case where there is no disagreement: they each think they are the original.

    The teleporter/duplicator isn't a valid objection to the idea that we're physical-only beings. And that only makes it more terrifying.

  • E3ECO
    E3ECO Tháng trước

    So using a transporter is like going to sleep.

  • JoeyPowerline
    JoeyPowerline Tháng trước

    i wachted this at 3am